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June 11th, 2008 at 6:19 pm

Actually i need a tip. What would it take to get a response on 150+ comments about the sorry state of the updated classic?

June 11th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

Did you know that William Randolf Hearst had a desk actioned off that was made by an immigrant Scotsman in St. John, New Brunswick? This desk was made about 1812. I saw this on that “Antiques Show” on PBS. There were 13 copies of the Declaration of Independece … only one exists. Where are the other 12?
Here is how to combine history with reality to put a copy in the hands of William Randolf Hearst.
It is entirely possible that Loyalists destroyed 11 of the other 12 copies.
The only other surving copy was placed in this desk in 1813. It was brought to St.John by a real Loyalist named Tertullus Dickinson in 1783. Tertullus was from New York and actually won the first ever election in St. John. Due to a severe fight between his New York supporters and those from New England who supported Ward Chipman, the polls were closed.
A scrutiny of the votes was done, but because Dickinson never showed up for it enough of his votes were thrown out to give the victory to Chipman who supported the establishment. The sheriff awarded the election to Chipman’s group. Shades of Bush-Gore, but with violence.
The question of why Tertullus never showed up for the recount has never been answered. Perhaps he was preoccupied at the moment trying to hide the “Declaration” to attend the recount. Ward Chipman actually called him “Stupid” for not attending, because if he had he would have won. Tertullus spread dissent through the province and latter returned to Winchester County,New York where he died. There was a younger Terullus Dickinson, believed to be his son, who remained in New Brunswick. He could have put the other surving copy in that desk that eventually was purchased and sold at auction by William Randolf Hearst. Nicholas Cages’ character could hear this story, from a mysterious surving relative of the younger Tertullus and dismiss it until he see it on that Antique Road show. That’s the plot. Action follows as he tries to unravel the mystery and where abouts of the only other copy of the “Declaration of Independence” that may still exist. Pretty good, eh. A nice sequel.
Bye.

June 11th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

Tertullus Dickinson was from Westchester county , New York … not Winchester. The facts of my story are all true (as I recall them from my memory. Oh well it is the county next to Dutchess County (now Putnam County) where he was also for a while, before the Revolution. I read somewhere thatb he was once arrested and questioned by Congress, before he escaped to New Brunswick, with the loyalist fleet.
I not a writer so you will have to finish this sequel. There is probably more money to be made in writing a sequel to National Treasure than writing a Mail Blog.
Bye for good this time.

June 11th, 2008 at 9:39 pm

that is awesome!!!

June 12th, 2008 at 9:08 am

Can you tell me if Yahoo will be utilizing the Iphone’s push capabilities in the new release? I WANT YAHOO ON MY IPHONE!!!!

June 12th, 2008 at 1:11 pm

I submitted a user tip a couple of months ago that you highlighted in a blog post here. I was shocked. My friends didn’t believe me when I told them. I must sheepishly say that I didn’t get an email about a reward, but it’s my fault because I have the Yahoo domain blocked in my blocked address list.

Now that I’ve embarassed myself (LOL)…

I saw “National Treasure: Book of Secrets” the first weekend after it came out on DVD. I liked it, but I was left wondering whether I’d misunderstood a line in the movie, where Ben Gates says that no flag flies over Buckingham Palace when the Queen is not currently in residence. My understanding is that the Royal Standard flies when the Queen is present but the Union Jack is flown when she is away from the palace. Either way, a flag is always flying at Buckingham Palace. Picky, picky, huh? Or else I misunderstood what Gates was trying to say. Neat movie, nonetheless. How often do you get a history lesson while being entertained?

June 12th, 2008 at 3:01 pm

I have a technical question…

Now when I try to reply to an e-mail the original e-mail that I am replying to shows up where I want to type my reply. How do I get it not to do that, and just give me a blank screen to work with?

June 12th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

Guys i got to say this. the user interface for submitting Yahoo! mail tips is really awesome.
i just loved it.
Kudos to you guys..

Keep working.

June 13th, 2008 at 4:43 am

Ryan,

What in the world just happened to Classic Mail? Last night my email was normal; this morning, it had changed. I like the new flagging option, but the message sorting is WAY out of wack!

I used to be able to view only unread messages, sort them by sender, and expect that they would maintain a date order within each sender’s group of emails that was either ascending or descending.

That is NOT the case! If I sort by sender, then the messages from that sender follow absolutely no subsequent order at all. They are not sorted by subject lines, dates, size of file, flags, replies, forwards, etc.

This is entirely unacceptable. I can’t afford to spend a lot of time either opening each message in a new window to view, then coming back to the message list; or opening a message, then using the back button to get back to the list. If I just open a message in the same window, then hit delete, next, or previous, it will take me to the next meassage on the list, even if it is not the next message I received chronologically.

The only remedy you’ve left is to sort by date, but then I have to muddle through messages by other senders, or that may have already been viewed.

What’s going on here? Is this some unannounced change that just happens to include some gliches? Will this be correctable? Can I opt to go back to the old, reliable way of viewing my mail?

Talk to me, Ryan, please. Tell me this nightmare in Yahoo adventures can be fixed. I have chosen to stick with Classic for a reason.

June 13th, 2008 at 8:06 am

I tried to access a history of pictures sent to me via email but I couldn’t locate a tab that allowed me to do that. I remember being able to do that with classic yahoo a while back, what am I missing?
Ironically, I saw “Nationial Treasure: Book of Secrets” last night with a friend! I am still amazed at the scene in the underground city where they are on that huge block they have to balance their weight on to grab the ladder. I feel like I am on a roller coaster watching it!

June 13th, 2008 at 8:48 am

It AMAZES me that Yahoo puts resources into making changes that no one asks for, yet doesn’t fix the stupid mail system overall.

FOR MONTHS, I have pointed out to your Techies that they can block 100% of the spoofed spam by validating the IP addresses (not the email address, the IP address) of the sending server. SMTP REQUIRES that the two mail servers (sending and receiving) must confirm the IP address before messages are transmitted.

Since Yahoo knows the IP address of all of their servers, any email with a “FROM YAHOO.COM” header MUST come from a Yahoo Server. But if the IP address does not match a Yahoo Server it is BY DEFINITION spam and should be deleted out of hand.

But is this the change made? No! We get UI changes that make it MORE DIFFICULT to use “CLASSIC” mail. Why not leave Classic as it is/was and fix what needs to be fixed instead?

June 13th, 2008 at 10:27 am

My love is yahoo

June 13th, 2008 at 11:10 am

Dametoon Garm

June 13th, 2008 at 11:27 am

what happened to Classic mail!?! it’s so wrong in so many ways.
1. in Inbox the From font is horribly small
2. the Flagging should remain inside the email
3. my created folders are in disarray.
i was able to control the order by using capital letter but now it makes no difference and the folders that start with a leter W are at the very bottom and i have to scroll down to them.
4. The Task Bar always show Yahoo! Mail, but now it shows the name of the folder i was in last or, worse, the title of an email i was reading. this difficult because i lose which task button is the Yahoo mail.
5. Before the whole title of the subject would conform to size of the window of my browser, but now i have to maximize the window to see complete titles of email and even then some disappear into …
6. Previous|Next|Back is too small of a font

PLEASE CHANGE BACK THE UI!!!

June 13th, 2008 at 11:36 am

correction: the From font is tiny inside the email.
I propose to keep the Classic Yahoo! Mail just that CLASSIC.

June 13th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

Where is my Yahoo? This morning I have automatically been switched to a “new and improved” Yahoo??????? This is horrible. Where is the box at the bottom of the compose page to check whether or not I want my signature on the email? What I have to do now is back out/delete the signature if I don’t want it there? Or go to Options and select I do or don’t want a signature each time? Where is the option to select show BCC permanently……not have to click on it each time???? Where are the auto reply options???? Include all of previous email in reply, part of email, or none of email?

What have ya’ll done. I complained and got an email back saying Yahoo had had alot of complaints and Yahoo wanted me to know they were working very hard to upgrade and give the customers what they want……..HELLO???? I didn’t ask for all these features to be deleted.

Why can’t I have the option to stay with the Yahoo version I had?

I will NOT be renewing my paid Yahoo membership when it comes due.

I truly don’t understand who sat around and dreamed up these changes.

Cheryl

June 13th, 2008 at 6:26 pm

Is there any place other than this site and Yahoo Help - which is HelpLESS - to complain about the changes and problems we all seems to be having with the “new” Yahoo. It is just a shame that as a paying customer I can’t get anyone to give a hoot that I’m very displeased with all these unhelpful changes that have been forced upon me. I did send many comments to Yahoo Help and complained very clearly and got a reply that thanked me for my comments and told me to enjoy the “new Yahoo”. Is there anyone anywhere that cares that we are all upset. Click on any of the comments/replies on this site alone and there are many, many complaint. Is anyone seeing these complaints? Is there any hope they will restore us back to the Yahoo we used to enjoy using?

Jean

June 13th, 2008 at 7:13 pm

Hmmm…how is it that the “mail blog” has posted nothing about how screwed up the UI is?

Strange - maybe no one at Yahoo has noticed all the complaints?!

June 14th, 2008 at 5:44 am

So, what’s the scoop from Yahoo? How many more complaints need to be made before you’ll revert these “improvements” and give us Yahoo Classic Mail again?????

June 14th, 2008 at 5:57 am

If our complaints here are falling on deaf ears, maybe “mailblog” could provide us with a better forum to express our complaints. Is there not someplace manned with someone whose job it is to read the feedback?

To those of you trying to get through to Yahoo Help by phone, save yourself the aggravation. I got through. They listened to all my complaints and then told me I needed to go online and send Yahoo Feedback………and told me to ‘ENJOY THE NEW YAHOO’.

June 14th, 2008 at 6:23 am

What is going on? These are “improvements”? I display Full Headers. I forward the message and the compact headers are being sent! Who thinks this is better??

June 14th, 2008 at 6:26 am

The developers at Yahoo must have better eyesight than I do. I can no longer read the “From” address in the tiny font. Who asked for this change? Change it back!

June 14th, 2008 at 6:44 am

Using IE 7, this “improved” classic never fully renders! With the Inbox open, 50% of my CPU is being used by IE. What have you folks done?! CHANGE IT BACK!!

June 14th, 2008 at 9:01 am

Downloading and attaching password protected ZIP files in the beta-classic mail does not work.

June 14th, 2008 at 12:42 pm

Caught in a Send Email Security CAPTCHA Never ending Loop?
I have been trying to send some emails and when I hit the send button, the CAPTCHA security box pops up which I enter the proper letters and number in the proper case but it loops me right back to the compose email page. This repeats every time I try to send the email and it never sends.

I’ve checked with Yahoo tech support and they refuse to acknowledge there is even an issue.
Does anyone have any ideas of how to fix this?

Even when I do get through to Tech support on the phone or via chat, they refuse to acknowledge there is a problem and say nothing has changed!!! Well, if nothing has changed, then what are we all complaining about???

June 14th, 2008 at 12:43 pm

Ever since Yahoo! “improved” the classic mail I am getting bombarded with spam faster than I can mark them as such!

It is a blitzkreig!

Please bring back Classic mail! At least I felt like I had a bit of control over the spam.

June 14th, 2008 at 1:00 pm

What a nightmare, my titles are cut off and I must open each eamil to read the title and I am on dialup (that is all that is available where I live), it is taking me forever to read my mail. Please give me back my old version.

June 14th, 2008 at 6:43 pm

Has anyone worked with “Unread Messages”? Try it out. If you reply to any of the Unread, when you return to the list of messages you get them all, read, unread, flagged, everything.

THANKS FOR BREAKING YAHOO MAIL CLASSIC!!!!

You’ve proven your point.

NOW BRING IT BACK THE WAY IT WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!

June 15th, 2008 at 2:33 pm

This new stuff is awful. For whatever the reason is, I’m getting hit with infinitely more spam. What happened–did YAHOO get jinxed by a vindictive business competitor? Just a thought…

June 15th, 2008 at 7:37 pm

I am using Classic.
I just tried to foreward a message.
I no longer have the option to send as an Attachment. Where did that go?
I use Attachment so that the message I’m forewarding does not have all of those screwey > > > > > > > > > > inserted into it.
I would like to be able to foreward a message without those screwey > > > > > > > > > inserted into the forewarded >< message. How can I do that with the NEW method?

Thanks
Charley

June 16th, 2008 at 5:27 am

I have tried to post a comment about the view by “Unknown Senders” option being gone since Saturday morning. I tried twice on IE7, once with Mozilla and once with Safari, but I never see my comment actually post. When I retry, I get a message that “Oops - looks like you already said that” and yet my original comment was never there to begin with.

Either way, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE bring back the view by “Unknown Senders” option as it was a very useful down and dirty way to quickly rid my inbox of the spam that inevitably makes it in. Since not all of my acknowledged contacts actually show the little Rolodex card icon (that broke many months ago and my quest for technical support has fallen on deaf ears), that view option made going through e-mail much much easier.

June 16th, 2008 at 8:23 am

I’ve noticed that whenever yahoo mail is being worked on I notice that for hours on end no messages go to my mailbox and no spam gets delivered either. I can tell when yahoo mail is working spam gets delivered even though I get no real mail in my inbox. Can you please deliver all the lost emails for the past few weeks? Where does all that email go?
Also when I click on click all to delete spam the page jumps so I have to click on the box to delete all spam manually.

June 16th, 2008 at 8:28 am

One other problem I notice is that when I use another website to send an email(craigslist) I click on the email address or link and it takes me to the yahoo mail front page. I used to be able to sign in and yahoo would automatically put in the subject or email address for me. Now when I sign in I have to cut and paste the email address. Why can’t I do that now? Did we lose this feature?

June 16th, 2008 at 9:11 am

I just want to know why I still can’t read pop emails??? When I try it: this message comes up:

“Unfortunately, there was a problem: pop3 unexpectedly terminated the connection. Please try again.”

Grrr.! Help please!

June 16th, 2008 at 9:38 am

I just found this blog due to searching to understand why my email is taking so long to get to me. I did a test this morning and it took 2 hours for me to receive an email from myself to myself. This is a huge concern since I am expecting email from clients and friends. If you have a minute, I am open ears. Thank you so much.

Ryan L.

June 16th, 2008 at 9:47 am

Please bring back the signature box at the bottom of the compose page. If I go to options and don’t save my signature, then when I want it there I have to either manually type it there or go back to options and click add signature. If I have my signature show on every email, then I have to back it out when I don’t want it there. Why not just put the little X box back……..how hard could that be? Without it, it’s just another couple of steps I have to take.

Please bring back the option to have BCC show all the time. 75% of the time I use the BCC feature. Why should I have to click on it each time. Just another unnecessary step I have to take.

Please bring back the Auto Reply Options…..include full message, part, or none in reply……..Those options are gone. Again another step to back out/delete what I don’t want to include in the reply.

The subject lines are cut off……..leaving you no option to click on each email to view the subject line. Another useless step.

Increase the font size……..makes it so much harder to read as small as it is.

If Yahoo Classic needed work done under the hood, that’s great……but you changed the paint job to a really ugly color, tinted the windows so we can’t see, forgot to do a tune up because everything is slowed down now as far as funtion, and just generally whoever your techs were should have just done internal work and left the exterior alone.

I have been with Yahoo for years but will not remain much longer. It’s just not worth the hassle. I actually dread working on my computer now in Yahoo.

This is the definition of Classic -
Belonging to the highest rank or class.
Serving as the established model or standard…
Having lasting significance or worth; enduring.

Yahoo Classic is no longer Classic or Classy…….What a disappointment.

June 16th, 2008 at 10:11 am

Ryan, while change was obviously inevitable, which as a developer i can understand very well, the poor testing that was done is quite frankly inexcusable. whole sections of disfunctionality were very well documented in comments to your post “Update to Yahoo! Mail Classic has Resumed”, but went completely unanswered. the updates were rolled out prematurely, the POP3 fiasco is a blaring example.
But much worse then that is the deafening silence that is Yahoo’s only response. You claim that you pass the feedback. Could you please pass back the response to it? Or at least tell us precisely who you are passing this feedback to? (you don’t have to give the name, just the title and maybe the realistic decision making level of that person.)
from what i personally gather from the comments the top issues that can be addressed easily are:
1: the disfunctional codepage support.
2: the misbehaving fonts.
3: the missing “forward as attachment” button (yes, i do know about Ctrl+Forward, but most people have no idea about it).
4: missing “known contact” icon on the message list.
5: Decreased effectiveness of the spam filter.
6: excessive demand for confirmation when tagging messages as spam.

That’s the “Top” list. i would appreciate an answer whether repairs to any of it is even on the agenda.

June 16th, 2008 at 10:15 am

I do have a question……on my Yahoo Classic page you have continually pushed the change to the “All New Yahoo Mail”. Obviously all of us that are upset chose to NOT change and to stay with Classic. Why didn’t you just make all your changes and trials/errors on “All New Yahoo Mail” and leave the Classic Yahoo as it was.

June 16th, 2008 at 11:37 am

This doesn’t bode well for IMAP…

June 16th, 2008 at 11:55 am

Thank you, Ryan. at least now i don’t feel abandoned. i have collected some data on these and few other issues and i’d be more then happy to share my findings with appropriate people at Yahoo, if they could find it helpful. i would be also willing to participate in any testing, if conducted by the developers (well, assuming they see me as a helper, not “that annoying PIA who can’t RTFM”).

June 16th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

since past few days i couldn’t able to log into my yahoomail, it stucks for long n long time after sign-in. Wht is the solution ?

kind regards,

June 17th, 2008 at 6:36 am

I have just one beef with Yahoo mail. I use my Yahoo address primarily for newsletter subscriptions, so the majority of emails I read in Yahoo are quite long. Several times I’ve gotten part-way through a newsletter when the page spontaneously refreshes and I find myself back at the beginning of the message. This forces me to have to scroll back down and search for the place where I was reading before the un-asked-for refresh. It’s annoying to say the least.

June 17th, 2008 at 7:01 am

I have a free Yahoo email account. I am getting swamped with junk mail. My account will only block 500 addresses. How can I increase the amount of address Yahoo will block?

June 17th, 2008 at 10:36 am

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No,2 corrupt nation in the world pihllipene (kutahy).

June 18th, 2008 at 6:20 am

I was on my yahoo email on Friday, june 13 and suddenly by computer began to reboot and reboot. I know yahoo mail was doing some changes as many people complained of not being able to access email Thursday and Friday. Could whatever yahoo was doing be responsible for my computer failure?

June 19th, 2008 at 7:04 am

I don’t think it takes too many brain cells to work out that Yahoo have instituted radical changes degrading the standard of Yahoo Classic so that people get so fed up they revert to their Mail Plus option at £11 a year.
I for one object strongly to this. If I want Mail Plus - and I hated the beta - I won’t be railroaded into it using these kind of ridiculous tactics.
Yahoo Classic has been clearly degraded. The preferences you used to have have been removed. You cannot view full headers any more, the viewable header is not sufficently informative, and it appears to be more buggy. I cannot search for emails properly now, without there being a problem with various error messages.
I have had this before and Yahoo did change me to another server (apparently).
The spam filter has and always has been rubbish. Even when you educate it to accept emails from a certain source, it still sees it as spam. The spam filter is chaotic, to say the least. I have to keep an eye on my spam folder all the time and I get loads of emails, just because I know a good number of legit emails will be filed as spam. Ridiculous. But that has always been the case.
I have emailed Yahoo customer service and the executive department about these changes but had ZERO resposne. I think it is time to find another reliable email service.
I really would not have minded possibly swapping over to Mail Plus but these sneaky tactics are not on.
Also what possible encouragement is there to any user to use Mail Plus when they do not respond to emails querying what on earth is going on.
Yahoo used to be great. Now truly and utterly dogpoo.

June 19th, 2008 at 9:55 am

I like the new mail but one thing I do not like is when I am creating new e-mails and click on the contact list - I hate the look - - I like the look of the old contact list. Therefore I create new e-mails in the Old mail. Is there going to be a change?

June 20th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

How about adding support for a PGP (pretty good privacy) plugin so that we can protect our email from the newly empowered NSA.

June 24th, 2008 at 5:36 am

So, I forward an email to abuse@yahoo.com to report it as spam from a Yahoo mail account. Here is the reply I received:

“Unfortunately, it appears the full Internet headers of the unwanted
message you have received is not reaching us. Below I have provided
step-by-step instructions on displaying the header information needed
and how to forward the message in question to us.

1. Within your Yahoo! Mail account, open the email you would like to
report.

2. Click the “Full headers” link located near the bottom right hand
corner of the screen to display the complete header information.

3. Click the “Forward” button to forward the message to us.

4. Type abuse@yahoo.com within the “To:” text box.

5. Click “Send” to send the message to us.

Once we receive the email in its entirety, we will be able to evaluate
the unwanted message further. Please know that if any of the requested
information is missing, we will be unable to complete our investigation.

I await your response so I may investigate your issue.”

Isn’t that nice! Too bad NOTHING IN IT IS CORRECT! Yahoo has changed Classic Mail so that it it not possible to forward email with full headers. The “documentation” is incorrect. FIX YOUR SOFTWARE!

June 24th, 2008 at 4:24 pm

Well, what a mess. With all the bruhaha over the new RocketMail and YMail, I can’t even find any conversations going on about the sorry state of affairs with Classic Yahoo. I really have tried to adjust to the changes. But I just am not pleased. It seems that Yahoo is in a horrible mess in all aspects of it’s “customer support”. There are so many different blogs and subjects and comments, you can spend all day trying to figure out what - if anything - is being done about all these problems.

Bring back my Classic Yahoo!

June 27th, 2008 at 7:30 pm

Dear Ryan,

Thank you for everything. I love Yahoo, and have since the beginning. You guys rock. mz